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O'Reilly vs Moore

BILL O'REILLY: The issues… all right good, now, one of the issues is you because you’ve been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass destruction, the Senate Intelligence Committee, Lord Butler’s investigation in Britain, and now the 9/11 Commission have all come out and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush.  Plus, Vladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction.  Wanna apologize to the president now or later?
MOORE: He didn’t tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass destruction.
O'REILLY: Yeah, but he didn’t lie, he was misinformed by - all of those investigations come to the same conclusion, that’s not a lie.
MOORE: uh huh, so in other words if I told you right now that nothing was going on down here on the stage…
O'REILLY: That would be a lie because we could see that wasn’t the truth
MOORE: Well, I’d have to turn around to see it, and then I would realize, oh, Bill, I just told you something that wasn’t true… actually it’s president Bush that needs to apologize to the nation for telling an entire country that there were weapons of mass destruction, that they had evidence of this, and that there was some sort of connection between Saddam Hussein and September 11th, and he used that as a –
O'REILLY: OK, He never said that, but back to the other thing, if you, if Michael Moore is president –
MOORE: I thought you said you saw the movie, I show all that in the movie
O'REILLY: Which may happen if Hollywood, yeah, OK, fine –
MOORE: But that was your question –
O'REILLY: Just the issues.  You’ve got three separate investigations plus the president of Russia all saying… British intelligence, U.S. intelligence, Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass destruction, you say, “he lied.”  This is not a lie if you believe it to be true, now he may have made a mistake, which is obvious –
MOORE: Well, that’s almost pathological – I mean, many criminals believe what they say is true, they could pass a lie detector test –
O'REILLY: Alright, now you’re dancing around a question –
MOORE: No I’m not, there’s no dancing
O'REILLY: He didn’t lie
MOORE: He said something that wasn’t true
O'REILLY: Based upon bad information given to him by legitimate sources
MOORE: Now you know that they went to the CIA, Cheney went to the CIA, they wanted that information, they wouldn’t listen to anybody
O'REILLY: They wouldn’t go by Russian intelligence and Blair’s intelligence too
MOORE: His own people told him, I mean he went to Richard Clarke the day after September 11th and said “What you got on Iraq?” and Richard Clarke’s going “Oh well this wasn’t Iraq that did this sir, this was Al Qaeda.”
O'REILLY: You’re diverting the issue…did you read Woodward’s book?
MOORE: No, I haven’t read his book.

So, the guy that is giving the majority of Americans and Canadians their information on 9/11, Iraq, Osama, etc., hasn't read Woodward's book? Scary.

Funny debate to read - would have liked to see it for real. Actually - Fox has the video on the website to see.

Moore goes on and on about sacrificing children. "It's Bush sending the children there." O'Reilly brings in Hitler. Hilarious debate.

Update: 
Just saw this quote from Moore in Simpson's Globe column:

Mr. Moore even got onto one of his favourite subjects -- Canada. "Thank God for Canadians," he said. "They're just like us, only better. They like us. They really do. They just wish we'd read a little more."

Funny that - you'd think the guy would have read "Plan of Attack" then...

Sidetracked thought - reminds me of the insult my brother heard a Leaf fan yell at Ken Dryden one time at a Leaf game:  "Hey Dryden - go read a book!"